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		<title>Comment on Letter to my MP &#8211; Mike Symon, Deakin by Tim Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Symon on ABC&#039;s PM tonight:

&quot;They [constituents] phoned my office and said ... that we support Julia Gillard.&quot;

[is there any chance that these calls will sway you one way or another?]

&quot;No, no not at all. ... When it comes down to it the leadership is decided by the members of the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party.&quot;

...

&quot;A lot of the traffic we&#039;ve got, especially on the email, has been emails sent to every MP ... I&#039;ve had quite a few individual ones and ... the individual ones are mostly in support of Julia Gillard. It seems to be the chain emails we&#039;re getting from other places [that] seem to be backing Kevin.&quot;

Obviously he didn&#039;t care about my call, and perhaps didn&#039;t see my e-mail (although that may have come in after this interview was recorded).

Source: http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3439154.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Symon on ABC&#8217;s PM tonight:</p>
<p>&#8220;They [constituents] phoned my office and said &#8230; that we support Julia Gillard.&#8221;</p>
<p>[is there any chance that these calls will sway you one way or another?]</p>
<p>&#8220;No, no not at all. &#8230; When it comes down to it the leadership is decided by the members of the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;A lot of the traffic we&#8217;ve got, especially on the email, has been emails sent to every MP &#8230; I&#8217;ve had quite a few individual ones and &#8230; the individual ones are mostly in support of Julia Gillard. It seems to be the chain emails we&#8217;re getting from other places [that] seem to be backing Kevin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously he didn&#8217;t care about my call, and perhaps didn&#8217;t see my e-mail (although that may have come in after this interview was recorded).</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3439154.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3439154.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tweaking Melbourne&#8217;s rail lines by Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.timmalone.id.au/2011/07/13/tweaking-melbournes-rail-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really great ideas. I too have thinking about the outrageous debacle that is our rail system. The expansion of rail lines to Beaumaris, to Chirnside Park, to Whittlesea and to Rowville can&#039;t be that difficult to have completed in the next 5 years. Why don&#039;t the politicians listen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really great ideas. I too have thinking about the outrageous debacle that is our rail system. The expansion of rail lines to Beaumaris, to Chirnside Park, to Whittlesea and to Rowville can&#8217;t be that difficult to have completed in the next 5 years. Why don&#8217;t the politicians listen?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Instagram is so cool by Monica Dranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Dranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome Tim!!! I&#039;ll see you on Sat!  :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome Tim!!! I&#8217;ll see you on Sat!  <img src='http://www.timmalone.id.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Exploring creativity &#8211; a workshop by Why Instagram is so cool &#124; Tim Malone.id.au</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Instagram is so cool &#124; Tim Malone.id.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] creativity. I think I&#8217;m creative but I&#8217;m not so sure how to harness that creativity, I wrote at the time. And while I haven&#8217;t yet moved on the idea raised in that post of starting a creative cluster [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] creativity. I think I&#8217;m creative but I&#8217;m not so sure how to harness that creativity, I wrote at the time. And while I haven&#8217;t yet moved on the idea raised in that post of starting a creative cluster [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Tim Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeremy - I&#039;ve fixed up the social sharing bar so it appears inline with the posts now. You must have a small screen ;)

Jeremy and I had a good discussion over Twitter last night. Anyone interested can see it here:
http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40jeremysear%20OR%20%40tdmalone%20from%3Ajeremysear%20OR%20from%3Atdmalone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeremy &#8211; I&#8217;ve fixed up the social sharing bar so it appears inline with the posts now. You must have a small screen <img src='http://www.timmalone.id.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jeremy and I had a good discussion over Twitter last night. Anyone interested can see it here:<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40jeremysear%20OR%20%40tdmalone%20from%3Ajeremysear%20OR%20from%3Atdmalone" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40jeremysear%20OR%20%40tdmalone%20from%3Ajeremysear%20OR%20from%3Atdmalone</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Tim Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly agree that going into the public sphere means your opinions are totally up for discussion. BUT not in the way that is often happening in this debate (both sides). Australian Marriage Equality says &quot;just as we acknowledge that it is possible to oppose marriage equality without hating homosexuals, so we ask those who differ with us on this important issue to acknowledge that it is possible to support marriage equality without seeking to undermine marriage, family or religion.&quot; (http://www.australianmarriageequality.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/AME-fact-religion.pdf). You would seem to disagree with the first part of that statement - saying that if someone disagrees with gay marriage, they automatically also hate (or are afraid of, depending on the meaning of homophobic) gay people. Is that correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly agree that going into the public sphere means your opinions are totally up for discussion. BUT not in the way that is often happening in this debate (both sides). Australian Marriage Equality says &#8220;just as we acknowledge that it is possible to oppose marriage equality without hating homosexuals, so we ask those who differ with us on this important issue to acknowledge that it is possible to support marriage equality without seeking to undermine marriage, family or religion.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.australianmarriageequality.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/AME-fact-religion.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.australianmarriageequality.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/AME-fact-religion.pdf</a>). You would seem to disagree with the first part of that statement &#8211; saying that if someone disagrees with gay marriage, they automatically also hate (or are afraid of, depending on the meaning of homophobic) gay people. Is that correct?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Dave Rowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But on your point, no, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s civil for private citizens to slag each other off. At the same time, you don&#039;t get to hold political opinions which marginalise vulnerable people and then escape being called out on it. People who oppose equal rights for gay people ARE homophobic. That people even consider &quot;homophobe&quot; to be a dirty word shows how far we&#039;ve come. If people think homosexuality is a sin, or it&#039;s weird, or it destroys family or whatever the latest excuse is -- that&#039;s fine, but they ought to have the guts to own that statement and the consequences. It&#039;s very precious for people who enjoy all the privilege that comes with heterosexuality to act as if being called a bigot is some grand injustice. Political rhetoric exists against a backdrop of power relations. For centuries, homosexuals have been disempowered. It is disingenuous to say that as we experience the very first gasps of empowerment for non-heteronormativity, all of a sudden it&#039;s a fair playing field and both sides are engaged in some sort of fairly-matched set-piece battle. Pistols at dawn, very civilised. It&#039;s not like that at all. The culture war that is on at the moment is about overcoming societal disenfranchisement of a downtrodden minority. Those who seek to defend the status quo, therefore, cannot be victims when they are criticised for their stand, because they are still oppressors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But on your point, no, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s civil for private citizens to slag each other off. At the same time, you don&#8217;t get to hold political opinions which marginalise vulnerable people and then escape being called out on it. People who oppose equal rights for gay people ARE homophobic. That people even consider &#8220;homophobe&#8221; to be a dirty word shows how far we&#8217;ve come. If people think homosexuality is a sin, or it&#8217;s weird, or it destroys family or whatever the latest excuse is &#8212; that&#8217;s fine, but they ought to have the guts to own that statement and the consequences. It&#8217;s very precious for people who enjoy all the privilege that comes with heterosexuality to act as if being called a bigot is some grand injustice. Political rhetoric exists against a backdrop of power relations. For centuries, homosexuals have been disempowered. It is disingenuous to say that as we experience the very first gasps of empowerment for non-heteronormativity, all of a sudden it&#8217;s a fair playing field and both sides are engaged in some sort of fairly-matched set-piece battle. Pistols at dawn, very civilised. It&#8217;s not like that at all. The culture war that is on at the moment is about overcoming societal disenfranchisement of a downtrodden minority. Those who seek to defend the status quo, therefore, cannot be victims when they are criticised for their stand, because they are still oppressors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Dave Rowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By right wing politicos, I mean people like Wallace or Francis. Anyone who chooses to enter the public sphere, especially in a professional capacity, had better be prepared to be criticised. Stridently. The thin skin of the ACL is quite remarkable, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By right wing politicos, I mean people like Wallace or Francis. Anyone who chooses to enter the public sphere, especially in a professional capacity, had better be prepared to be criticised. Stridently. The thin skin of the ACL is quite remarkable, I think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Joshua Letchford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Letchford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy,

Yes, in that sense, it is discriminatory- but &quot;discriminatory&quot; is usually used in a negative sense which people like the ACL would argue is incorrect. 

So, not allowing black people on Alabaman busses is discriminatory (negative sense) but choosing one footballer to play in the team over antoher footballer who is dropped is also discriminatory. But we don&#039;t jump up and down (unless we like that footballer!  :smile: )

The difference is that one is a discrimination which is not acceptable, and the other is one that society does accept. 

Tim&#039;s point is that everybody should be allowed to argue what is and is not good for society. The logic that &quot;I should not respect them because they do not respect me&quot; is ultimately ugly because if someone like Jim Wallace/ACL applied that logic to your comment, they would say, &quot;He doesn&#039;t respect our views, so we won&#039;t respect his&quot;. 

And suddenly nobody respects anybody&#039;s ideas and we spend all our time shouting homophobe or sodomist at each other. I agree with Tim, we should respect each other enough to respond with logic, not disrespect, viterol or hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy,</p>
<p>Yes, in that sense, it is discriminatory- but &#8220;discriminatory&#8221; is usually used in a negative sense which people like the ACL would argue is incorrect. </p>
<p>So, not allowing black people on Alabaman busses is discriminatory (negative sense) but choosing one footballer to play in the team over antoher footballer who is dropped is also discriminatory. But we don&#8217;t jump up and down (unless we like that footballer!  <img src='http://www.timmalone.id.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>The difference is that one is a discrimination which is not acceptable, and the other is one that society does accept. </p>
<p>Tim&#8217;s point is that everybody should be allowed to argue what is and is not good for society. The logic that &#8220;I should not respect them because they do not respect me&#8221; is ultimately ugly because if someone like Jim Wallace/ACL applied that logic to your comment, they would say, &#8220;He doesn&#8217;t respect our views, so we won&#8217;t respect his&#8221;. </p>
<p>And suddenly nobody respects anybody&#8217;s ideas and we spend all our time shouting homophobe or sodomist at each other. I agree with Tim, we should respect each other enough to respond with logic, not disrespect, viterol or hate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A healthy democracy needs the freedom to disagree by Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, you need to get rid of that obnoxious facebook/tweet/google like box that&#039;s superimposed over the whole page. I can&#039;t read what&#039;s underneath it, and I can&#039;t make it go away.

Second, saying that opposing marriage equality is discriminatory is not &quot;shutting down debate&quot;. It&#039;s calling a spade a spade. If you do not support equality, if you say that the law should discriminate between a man and a woman in the Marriage Act (which is what the present version does - I&#039;m allowed to marry my fiancee because I&#039;m a man, but I&#039;d be stopped if I were a woman), then you are supporting discrimination. The government is discriminating between people on the grounds of gender.

That&#039;s what the word &quot;discrimination&quot; means.

And as for the anger - well, imagine you were told YOU were not permitted to marry the person you love because of your race, or your religion, or your gender. You&#039;d be pretty pissed off too.

There&#039;s no equivalence here. Nobody is calling for Christians to be denied their most basic human rights - but people like Jim Wallace ARE demanding the same in reverse against gay people.

That position is a hateful, cruel one. It does not deserve respect. Because it is founded on a fundamental lack of respect for other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, you need to get rid of that obnoxious facebook/tweet/google like box that&#8217;s superimposed over the whole page. I can&#8217;t read what&#8217;s underneath it, and I can&#8217;t make it go away.</p>
<p>Second, saying that opposing marriage equality is discriminatory is not &#8220;shutting down debate&#8221;. It&#8217;s calling a spade a spade. If you do not support equality, if you say that the law should discriminate between a man and a woman in the Marriage Act (which is what the present version does &#8211; I&#8217;m allowed to marry my fiancee because I&#8217;m a man, but I&#8217;d be stopped if I were a woman), then you are supporting discrimination. The government is discriminating between people on the grounds of gender.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the word &#8220;discrimination&#8221; means.</p>
<p>And as for the anger &#8211; well, imagine you were told YOU were not permitted to marry the person you love because of your race, or your religion, or your gender. You&#8217;d be pretty pissed off too.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no equivalence here. Nobody is calling for Christians to be denied their most basic human rights &#8211; but people like Jim Wallace ARE demanding the same in reverse against gay people.</p>
<p>That position is a hateful, cruel one. It does not deserve respect. Because it is founded on a fundamental lack of respect for other people.</p>
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